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Just because you have a bunker, doesn’t mean you hand the enemy the plans.

This presumes you have a working bunker and not a flawed one because you obscured the details from good actors that could identify problems.

Lmao, since the neo they’re panicking. It’s over microslop.

You really think we would have let a competing species exist?

Biological classifications are one gigantic mess. There are multiple ways to define what qualifies as a "species". One of them is procreation and viable offspring, going by modern human DNA and the Neanderthal fragments contained in it we where one big happy family all along.

Depends on whether they were considered competing, and whether "we" were as organized, single-minded and competitive as this statement seems to imply - "we" probably weren't, not until larger kingdoms and empires started forming ~4000 years ago.

Lions, bears, wolves, etc all survived us

Barely and only because some of use decided to protect them.

Bears and wolves were indeed "removed" from parts of Europe by humans.

There is a long list of Megafauna that did not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Pleistocene_extinctions


Ah yeah looks I wasn't on the mark here. The "outcompete" framing is more accurate for neanderthals but for many pleistocene extinctions "hunted to extinction" did happen in some cases so it was not a good comparison. Thanks!

Sure, we might have enslaved them. Just like we did to other humans we believed to be a little different by some metric (changes when you look in history what this metric is exactly for free license to demonize a fellow sapien)

That’s dumb then. It shows it’s just brute force rather than AI.

A human doesn’t need to be shown every single road that exists in order to drive.


That's true, but the human can do a much better job planning for the journey if they know what to expect along the way.

One example, from the end of the journey: knowing in advance where the actual entrance to the business is, or the specific curb cut that leads to the residence, makes it easier and far less error prone to decide exactly where the journey should end. Even humans have a hard time figuring out the right access point for a business or residence. This is a job for an offline process, fed by as many data sources as possible.


Just a bunch of sophisticated if statements, I guess.

It’s weird to close it right as chatbots are all the rage.

Obviously better if you print slow enough. But the fans will be weaker and you won’t be able to pump out thousands every day.

This whole meme never made sense. Data centres are cooled with AC. Where the fuck is water supposed to be going?

Everything works until it doesn’t.

The problem with slop is, nobody understands it. Nobody ever designed it, nobody really knows how it works. You’re just putting blind faith in the slop you’ve shipped.

It lets you be very quick, but if you’ve accidentally compromised all your data or bank accounts through the slop then you won’t know until you’re destroyed.


Probably some Slopcoded bot which posts fake comments to drive people to their content.

After all, if you’re paying hundreds of millions to buy these shitty podcasts, you might as well host some bots.


Account is from 2016 with 6k karma? : doubt:

Why assume people would not buy and sell Hacker News accounts?

Seems unlikely. I had a hell of a time finding someone to sell me this one.

Did you even check the link? It's a podcast from Cal Newport, a quite known figure (at least in software engineering / compsci circles). So it's not exactly a random shitty podcast. And, it's also (obviously) not my content.

I hadn't heard of him until he got famous last month for slagging off the AI industry.

Lmao, I can 100% believe that they are deliberately filling your usage bar to sabotage their competition. These people have no morals.

"Sorry, that was a bug!" Thariq will be on scene shortly, don't worry.

Yeah it will be something like "we A/B tested on 0,05% of users and ..."

I mean that also just sounds illegal...

It also sounds extremely counterproductive to try and sabotage your competition by.. driving your customers away? I have no love for these companies but it's a silly conclusion to jump to.

They don't want customers that make them bleed more money than they're supposed to.

People on OpenClaw discord were bragging about having this stuff running 24/7 and using billions of tokens. I think one guy was using billions per day. (I might have misplaced some zeros but I remember one guy's bill would have been $1000 with API pricing. Per day.)

At the time, enforcement was pretty random, and I think based on how heavy your traffic was.

They weren't all on Claude (though it was the preferred setup) and some people had dozens of accounts hooked up with proxies to avoid hitting limits.


Then just... charge everyone in same way ? The problem is entirely caused by their ass-backwards billing methods

They're subsidizing the plans. A lot of subscriptions in general do this: the users that barely do anything subsidize the users that do a whole lot. If every user starts doing a whole lot more than usual, you have a problem. Which means OpenClaw poses a problem, because not only do existing users start doing a whole lot more than usual, but a huge influx of new users start doing the whole lot too.

But the have an ass-backwards billing method to appeal to the masses in the first place. It's like price dumping as long as they can do it with the investors' money that they somehow swindled. Their competitors do the same thing, so it is either go along with it, or be left behind in the dust. A contest of endurance in financial swindling.

I for one hope it all comes crashing down, when reality hits these companies. I like being able to ask some LLM a question, when I don't know something. I also like asking it for examples. But I don't let it write my code and burn tokens to no end until it passes some tests or something. My usage is at human speed, and I feel like that is sufficient for the technology to be helpful. For the rest I will use my biological wet ware, thank you.


I'm starting to realize that fixed-price agent subscriptions follow the same profit model as gym memberships.

Would they act differently if it was?

Not if a chatbot did it, maybe. No legal precedence here. Also they are a defense and offense contractor they could kill people and nothing would happen

Chatbot doesn't really make a difference. Swap out Claude with the aws or azure cli increasing your usage to 100% for mentioning some forbidden keyword and it's the same problem.

The chatbot didn't do shit? The person coding the chatbot put this explicit condition in place.

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