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Can you name some tangible AI idea that came out of Chinese labs?

I can name thousands that came out western universities.

I see a lot of rhetoric that only the Chinese labs are contributing to AI while companies like Google and Microsoft are still pulishing their research.

Unfortunately the domain of scientific papers is cluttered with AI slop but still occasional serious paper that i find are from western labs particularly Google Research or Microsoft Research


Any of DeepSeek's recent papers which are more about efficiency and that's how their inference costs can be so low.



It doesn't mean only Chinese companies are contributing. Take TurboQuant, a serious theoretical paper not just GPU optimization, it was google research as the original transformers as MoE and many other techniques we use daily in deep learning as for libraries like TensorFlow which were pivotal to fast development of AI


Bit of a strawman, isn’t it.


The Islamic regem lost all its legitimacy in Jan. Even some loyalist where angry at them but they gain support of part of the people and found a reason to exist as the defender of the country.

They will survive and become stronger particularly if they get an economic lifeline out of this peace deal.


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It helps the discussion if you would correctly restate what has been agreed. The first obvious mistake is that the US have agreed Iran can charge tax on ships passing the strait; at 32000 ships a year and a nominal $2M, that amounts to $64B alone, doubling their revenue from oil exports and making any foreign currency they like appear in their accounts.

And no, Europe and others definitely do not owe you any debt for this catastrophic war of choice (that still, they enabled! good luck flying there without them!). You will permanently lose many of the ME states to China.


There’s a good argument that European counties should be taking Trump to court and sanctioning him personally for the damage caused by a war he started.


> Europe and even China owe a great debt of gratitude to the US

Absolutely not, USA actions harmed Europe and Europe knows it.

> Putin will be absolutely furious, since he's now betrayed by both the EU

In what alternative universe?


Not sure which world you're in, but Iran has put forward a 10-point demand plan, and it looks like the US (or rather Trump) will likely accept all of them instead of getting stuck in a quagmire before elections.


Yeah, they did. Did you compare to their original 5 point plan? Their 10 point plan sounds like they've given up removing US bases, taxing Hormuz AND the safety of their proxy armies. No "right" to nuclear bombs (sorry "power stations"). No reparation payments. No removal of US bases.

Any agreement with Iran doesn't matter anyway, because Iran hasn't held up it's previous agreements, so there's no real long term point to any agreement. I wonder if they'll let the US clean up their nuclear stockpile and their centrifuges. That is the real question that matters to the west: does the US (or someone trustworthy) get to go in and remove that shit? Does the US (or someone trustworthy) get to go in and demine Hormuz?

(oh sorry, did propagandists claim Iran didn't mine Hormuz? Well, they lied. And we could point out that that is yet another islamist warcrime ... but what's the point? Frankly it's a pathetic warcrime compared to what they do to people in Iran itself, Syria and Yemen)


Did you bother reading the actual plan, or are you too MAGA to do so?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/iran-10-point-...

> According to state media, Iran will only accept the war’s conclusion once details are finalised in line with a 10-point peace plan reportedly submitted to the White House via Pakistani intermediaries.

> The list of 10 points, published by Iranianstate media, include a number of conditions the US has rejected in the past. The plan requires: > The lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions on Iran. > Continued Iranian control over the strait of Hormuz. > US military withdrawal from the Middle East. > An end to attacks on Iran and its allies. > The release of frozen Iranian assets. > A UN security council resolution making any deal binding.

> In the version released in Farsi, Iran also included the phrase “acceptance of enrichment” for its nuclear program. But for reasons that remain unclear, that phrase was missing in English versions shared by Iranian diplomats to journalists.


Shouldn't we see satellites around earth? Like in Wall-E :)


With exception of embassies, most of what you mentioned are military targets and those proxies are native citizens who are attacking hostile aliens. When you send soldiers to other countries what do you expect?

Why US has military presence in every other country? Be more MAGA


This is not Claude Code. And my experience is the opposite. For me Codex is not working at all to the point that it's not better than asking the chat bot in the browser.


A lot of people dunking but as this comment says, it is not claude code. (just opus 4.6)


This comment is right, this screenshot is not Claude Code. It’s Opencode.


It's just the most horrible thing. The whole idea of YouTube for me was to control what you watch in comparison to traditional TV where they fed you what they wanted. I know people say that you should not click on it but we all how low times in our day that we have exhausted our brain.


I think there are two scenarios and one of them is boring. If the owner of the agent created it with a prompt like "I want 10 merged pull requests in these repositories WHAT EVER IT TAKES" and left the agent unattended, this is very serious and at the same time interesting. But, if the owner of the agent is guiding the agent via message app or instructed the agent in the prompt to write such a weblog this is just old news.


Even if directed by a human, this is a demonstration that all the talk of "alignment" is bs. Unless you can also align the humans behind the bots, any disagreement between humans will carry over into AI world.

Luckily this instance is of not much consequence, but in the future there will likely be extremely consequential actions taken by AIs controlled by humans who are not "aligned".


The idea is a properly aligned model would never do this, no matter how much it was pressured by its human operator.


Please forget Oracle. I don't even know the name of their cloud service. I haven't heard anyone using their service for AI.


OpenAI aren’t using their cloud directly, but have signed data center partnerships with them that are effectively huge amounts of debt not backed up with revenue. That’s all liability that Google doesn’t really have because they have revenue from other areas.


Back then they said Tehran will go out of water if there is no rain in coming weeks and it is raining in Tehran, now. Also they rationed water for a few weeks. Many regions of Tehran only had water during the night.


I always suspected someone inside Apple is making sure that these phones stay vulnerable for Israeli hackers or they don't really fix their bugs.


it's possible,but iphones are apple's flagship product. it would be disastrous for them. i don't think any government contract is worth the cost. They're not google or Microsoft, they're not that big in the enterprise side of things.

I'm sure if such a relationship became public,most Americans will forget about it in few weeks time and half will be surprised what the big deal is. But apple will lose out on Asia and Europe where it has solid competition. Their hardware is their bread-and-butter.

It is more plausible for the US government to have planted or extorted an asset working as a developer at apple than apple itself making such a monumentally foolish decision.

Google and Microsoft on the other hand, that I am fairly certain of.

But... i digress a bit, only because Tim Cook was kissing the proverbial king's ring a lot lately. donations are one thing, giving gold gifts in person and on national tv is another.


Tim Cook gifted trump a gold base with a glass plate on it like some peasant to a king in front of camers. Apple will bend over backwards to please governments so don't be surprised when it turns out not everything is as secure as claimed in their walled garden.


I'm not a particular fan of Apple but the gold thing seemed like a good, cheap way to get on Trump's good side, which led to them somehow magically avoiding tariffs.

I don't think I'd read more into it than that.


Yes, that is exactly the problem. No need to read more into it.


Yeah, that's always how bribery works.

From Wikipedia: "Bribery is the corrupt solicitation, payment, or acceptance of a private favor (a bribe) in exchange for official action."


Yes, everyone knows. It was transparently a bribe.

But let’s not motte bailey that into proof that Apple intentionally ships backdoors.


I view it more as a ransom / hostage payment or a response to bullying. There was a threat of tariffs; I'm going to hold your business hostage. The ransom was paid and the tariffs weren't imposed.

I think a bribe is better defined as "you cannot have this thing you want, unless you give me this". A quid pro quo.

I guess it comes down to who the "active" party was.

I would definitely call it a bribe if Tim Cook was the one that asked to get special treatment or lower Tariffs than anyone else and the response was give me a "gift".

Even if you believe it was a bribe, the value of it was purely symbolic. What was given wasn't a change in policy, it was a material gift of zero value to anyone else except for scrap. Others that have been subjected to this behavior have given up things like changes in hiring practices and working with "non favored" organizations.


> the gold thing seemed like a good, cheap way to get on Trump's good side

Which, whilst morally repugnant, does make business sense - if Apple got hit by tariffs or other penalties, you can be sure the Carl Icahn style leeches would be popping out of the woodwork complaining that Tim Cook was ruining Apple / the share price / etc. and trying to orchestrate shareholder and/or board revolts.

(And Good Lord, imagine the threads on here if Apple's value dropped just because Tim Cook didn't give a hideous piece of tat to Trump.)


Aren't gifts to the president kept by the government? In the US usually bribery is done by giving jobs to relatives or favorable contracts.


Bribery can be done in a myriad of ways but the gift itself is not the valuable thing, it is the display of fealty.


The point of a bribe is to receive something in exchange for something else.


Loyalty was gifted.


It wouldn’t be a disaster, Apple already donates to the IDF. They literally have IDF among their staff.

How is none of this public knowledge


Active serving IDF are also employed by Apple? I know there’s a lot of ex-IDF people in Silicon Valley but since the IDF is mandatory all it means is ex-Israeli people. They could still be secretly working for the Mossad but that’s generally something you can claim true of all foreign nationals - they’re also possibly just normal people with talent and experience.


I’d like to clarify with a couple of questions.

- Are you saying that you believe apple is picking someone who is a real wizz with css, but because of the country’s laws they had to serve with the IDF?

- Are you saying the formality of having to be a former of your previous employer, as part of taking on new employment is to be unexpected in any way?


I really don’t understand the questions and they bely an ignorance of things or are intentionally provocative (and not coherent) but I’ll try.

Firstly, the exploits in play would not be introduced by a “css whiz kid” first of all. Creating holes for rootkits like Pegasus requires deep low level expertise.

Secondly, AFAIK all the teams that would be involved on working on that are located in Cupertino - so these people had to relocate to the US.

But yes, I think finding anyone who was a child in Israel and didn’t serve in the IDF is very difficult. This is doubly-so for the tech sector since the IDF is often where they obtain their initial technical education and are serving between 18 and 21.

Unless you’re blanket just going to disallow recruiting from Israel or hiring people who moved from Israel to the US and might even be US citizens. But then you’re also going to have to explain why you’re applying this policy to Israelis and not Koreans, Singaporeans, Taiwanese, Norwegians, who have similar mandatory service requirements (plenty of countries do).

I’m not saying that Mossad don’t try to get their own secret agents working long term undercover in these places. But that’s also true of other secret services of enemies and allies alike and I would think they’re less likely to generate exploits intentionally and more likely to gather information and look for exploits by having access to source, documentation, and able to get information from peers. But Israelis having previously worked in the IDF doesn’t really provide any signal to me on the motivations or beliefs of that person.


> But Israelis having previously worked in the IDF doesn’t really provide any signal to me on the motivations or beliefs of that person

You know what, you’re absolutely right. But you’d be wrong if it turns out it’s not the general IDF we’re talking about, and specifically not one all Israelis have to serve. And that Google has all the good stuff.

But anyway I’m going to let you believe what you believe about a corporation that makes “donations” to a military, and I’m going to believe what I believe.


Can you elaborate so I can educate myself? Speaking in innuendo isn’t helpful for a discussion like this.


Are you saying that Apple should ban hiring Israelis since all of them have to serve in the IDF?


Can you try your questions again, but this time coherently?


The Israeli military takes corporate donations?


> It is more plausible for the US government to have planted or extorted an asset working as a developer at apple

This is indeed how I read the comment you replied to.


I read it as saying apple's leadership is complicit and cooperating like Google's and Microsoft's have been.


The phrase "someone inside Apple" doesn't really connote top leadership. To me at least it resonates more with "insider threat". If they meant it was corporate policy, they would have just said "Apple". And as you said it's rather implausible to start, so I don't know why that would be your first interpretation. :)


I took "inside apple" to be "inside apple leadership" but your interpretation is valid as well, and it's one i agree with.


> I'm sure if such a relationship became public,most Americans will forget about it in few weeks time and half will be surprised what the big deal is. But apple will lose out on Asia and Europe where it has solid competition. Their hardware is their bread-and-butter.

Everyone is somewhat aware that their phone are not impermeable to government agencies and it doesn't matter, that's the case for Americans of course because they are well used to it, but also for Europeans.

If they were to purposely make 'mistake' to allow Israeli spying companies to compromise their phone, it most likely wouldn't change anything.


It wouldn't be disastrous. Most won't care. A lot of fanatic fans would buy an i-dildo if that was ever a thing and would say that it's the best thing ever.


Say Hellohhhh to iBrator (which came in color everywhere, 26 years ago):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqN6749QqtA


an i-dildo if that was ever a thing

Like https://www.amazon.com/app-controlled-vibrator/s?k=app+contr... ?

Is there a "Rule 34" type proclamation where if it exists someone will add an app to it whether it needs it or not.


I hope they're making them stay vulnerable for jailbreakers.


It's spectacular how, when Israelis are involved, entire R&D organizations can suddenly become sinister cabals that operate in complete secrecy across ranks.

/s


You only have to have kompromat on one person high up to get the result you want.


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