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hallucinogens where taken by hippies, it was probably a way to put a few extra commies and lefties in prison

it's revolutionary in genetic research, allows us to observe cells with specific gene knockouts, over activations, etc. it's just very hard to deliver to a whole system

maybe de-rlhf unleashed agents

Will ublock work with this?

Last I remember, they were contemplating retaining MV2 too in future releases so that uBlock (and other extensions don't lose functionality) - https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/iss... ...

this reasoning is inverted lol they would get a lot more information by letting you use it. so much weird drama around reasonable guardrails for an experimental model

Why is this surprising or a problem?! It's a model demo, & their reasoning is reasonable and fair. Why all this drama.

Some people find Anthropic's special blend of paternalism and random incompetence tiresome.

"I will push back and say" it's only paternalism if it's about helping the user's not harm themselves.

This is about societal impacts, not wanting their models to be used by some people against other people, as a weapon.


Because most people in tech never took a philosophy course or an ethics course and think that tech is obviously a good for the world and that there are no downsides to advancing tech. So any efforts that try to apply ethics to it are overreaching, ignorant, and futile in the face of the good that is tech!

Or alternatively, it is plain and obvious that Anthropic is using ethics to justify business decisions.

Not any efforts.

But this one is certainly allowed to be a dumb effort, if it is.

Not all things that are called “ethical” or “safety” are worth doing.


Or... they just disagree with Anthropic's ethical stances and approach to applying them?

So i have big news for you my friend as i'm not sure you understand such courses. Taking an ethics course won't make you a more ethical person.. and taking a philosophy course neither.

You're being too literal, they're saying people are not thinking with a philosophically interested mind, which is blatantly the case here, their point stands.

I like this take. Especially because one of the sibling comments framed Anthropic's stance as "paternalism." Trying to be ethical and to minimize harm, even at great expense to one's finances and reputation, is paternalistic apparently.

No — we’ve just taken Ethics 102 as well, so we understand good intentions don’t entail positive outcomes, therefore you may need to criticize or oppose people who state good intentions to bring about good outcomes.

Insulting and demeaning people for that, rather than engaging their arguments in good faith, is a breach of ethics.


I mean, if you take HN commenters to have the thoughtfulness and foresight of children, then the word kind of works.

Because you're being allowed to ask and work only on topics that a certain company decides.

Local inference has never been so important as it is now.


Tech demo + theres the ability to provide feedback right at the answer interface if using the UI.

Provide feedback in the negative, a brief explanation, and move on with your day. It will improve with feedback, not with whinging into the void.


Ironically making a stink about it online is likely to have a larger impact then using their dedicated feedback or support channels (which go to claude, not a person)

the feedback is for something mindless though, "we don't care about societal harms". I wonder the overlap between these commenters and tech maga people, eg crypto bros & Elon stans.

In this case, no overlap between me and tech maga / crypto bro / elon stan.

what does this mean

Well you see when a daddy H100 and a mommy H100 meet....

you don't get the model when you buy the data center, & no amount of running smaller models on a tiny 200k$ "cluster" (that's like one 4 gpus node, not even 8) will get you remotely close to Fable 5 level performance

Uh huh

4.6 had functional but very poor quality code

how so? it has been my daily work horse,in fact so was 4.5 BUT as long as we steer it IT does a good enough job. I have not tried Mythos/Fable yet SO do not have an opinion on it.

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they don't know that it'll break, that's the problem of course

I think the point is that those are the clients you don't want, so you encourage them to select themselves out of working with you. The fact that it might be bad for their own business is not relevant to you as a consultant.

I think it's normal for non-technical people to have no idea of how things work and of what to expect. It's our responsibility to communicate. And, within reason, theirs to listen.

This can only happen if they have reason or motivation to trust the expertise, and an expectation that the relationship can be fruitful.

Like you said, they must at least be willing to listen.


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