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And when she has them, it'll be something different ridiculous. Seriously, this is what whatsapp is for. I don't see why we have to dump down EVERYTHING for those people.

From my own experience the biggest reason is that "my friends are elsewhere". I force my gf to use signal, her mother started to use it too because of that and because she wants to have PC problems solved by me. Same goes for other people that want to interact with me through an communication app like Signal. Other just have to call or write an SMS. Those functions are still there.



You call it 'dumb down', I call "useful way of communication". Gifs are a form of communication. You might not use it, but most people do.

Signal will not get traction because people want to have their PC problems fixed by Nerd friends. My IT club group chat are all nerds, yet we still do not use Signal, because things like gifs were missing.

The Strategy of Signal is to make a mass market chat client that is save. Not a nerd utopia chat client.

> EVERYTHING

Everything? Really?

I don't remember my mother asking for reproducible APK compilation. I don't remember her asking about the the forward security properties of the communication protocol.


> Gifs are a form of communication. You might not use it, but most people do.

Just like most people use whatsapp and I don't want to stop them at all. BUT there is a demand for a secure communication application that does just this. Secure communication.

I don't say they should never put in funny gifs or whatever is fancy or trendy aka "necessary" today when they are done with it and when it does not risk the main claim of the product at all.

But seeing that the priorities switch to really unnecessary stuff when there are so many important things that could be done with that, is sad and bringing in a bunch of trendy kids ideas in there won't help at all. You may be happy with your gifs then but if this is the case, and those are the features you consider important, you many be more of a problem for this product and the claim then a gain. And honestly, Signal survived without it, it wouldn't die not having it.

> My IT club group chat are all nerds, yet we still do not use Signal, because things like gifs were missing.

So what do you say? Would your "IT club" fall apart without it? Would you switch to unsecure messaging without it? If yes: Signal should not care about you at all because the marked is already covered with alternatives better suited for you. If no: why are you arguing with me?

Edit: my god...I misread that in your favour. You really don't use Signal because there is no gif search in it....this is...I don't even..

> The Strategy of Signal is to make a mass market chat client that is save. Not a nerd utopia chat client.

If their priorities are gif search and not an account without a number, secure contact sharing or all those other requests that have been out there, they will end up being not more then what WhatsApp is atm. If you think this is a viable marketing method, you should join a economics club instead.

> I don't remember my mother asking for reproducible APK compilation.

I was talking about the app in general. We have enough apps out there with fancy trending useless crap you miss so much. It even uses the same encryption. We don't need more of the same.


Encryption is only really useful when everybody participates. Otherwise you just have to arrest the people using it. So dumbing it down is actually pretty important.


If we reach a level where people get arrested for using an app, it doesn't really matter how many there are. See Turkey.




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