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Fuck all telemetry (sharing any information which is not just "you have no control over" but anything which is not logically necessary for the app to do its primary job). Just don't use any apps you can block from doing this. IMHO this (sending redundant and untransparent information from a user's machine) should be outlawed.


Typo fix: I meant "apps you can'T block from doing this" of course.

Addition:

I also hate apps and gadgets using "clouds" for jobs which can perfectly be done locally.

E.g. I want a vitals tracking device to record my heart and sleep data but I am not buying any because they send that data to their servers, I want them to only send it to my PC where I would do the data science myself (and/or to my smartphone to a purely local app). I would pay a lot (up to e.g. what a beefiest new MacBook costs) for such a device if it were purely local and well-made (wouldn't break soon).

I also want a vacuum robot which would build and use my apartment map without sending it to any cloud but there are no such models no matter how much I am willing to pay (I know a solution[1] for vacuum robots - some can be hacked to run the server part on themselves but I don't really have time for this). And there have recently been a leak of pictures made by vacuum robots which proves my paranoia is legitimate.

Some genius has even invented a WC which analyzes your pee and stores your hormonal changes log in their cloud which is a great gift to conservative maniacs (I don't mean all conservatives are maniacs, some are awesome, there are many flavours of conservatism) which have just banned abortions and can now subpoena the company to find out you if you have secretly undergone an abortion in another state.

Surely insurance companies and banks will also find a way to get your data and make your insurance and loans prohibitively expensive as soon as they find some clues you might have health risks.

I am almost sure the problem of privacy negligence, every serious actor spying on people hoarding data, is going to become more and more serious up to a catastrophic point and hope it will get more and more attention soon.

I used to be called a paranoid loon by fellow students for covering my laptop camera a decade ago, now almost everybody does this and my new laptops (HP EliteBook and ProBook) even came with built-in curtains on the cams.

[1] https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo


Error reporting is far from being redundant though, it's literally 1 step away from being 'logically necessary'


This. It's hard to take app development that doesn't use any kind of crash reporting seriously, tbqh.

Like, there's a crash reported by a user. That's already rare in itself, and average report quality from non technical users varies from nearly useless to misleading. What are you gonna do, ask them where it happened and what they were doing, to guess where in your related code something went wrong?


I would gladly report all the bugs myself manually, with all the details, specifics and reproduction steps. The only problem is 85% of bugs I ever reported either got "won't fix" status (mostly in free software) or just been silently forgotten (mostly at work) or got a "pay first, then ask for fixes" response (when it was about shareware). So I lost enthusiasm. Free software bug reporting also often has a problem of requiring registration in a separate BugZilla for every project but this problem has mostly been resolved by the majority moving to GitHub.

By the way, although I don't want to participate in involuntary and non-transparent automatic error reporting, I find your response logically beautiful. "One step away" - a perfect and reasonable description for this.


You wouldn't though. Because a lot of different crashes (not to mention warnings) are handled automatically and are restarted before you even notice. If you have android, just connect it to pc, open logcat and filter for errors only. There are still messages every couple seccond. You would get frustrated even if those were simply showed to You as a user, not to mention actively going out of your way to report them




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