> That's not the only option. Why is it the only one you can think of?
It's not the only one I can think of, but no other options have been presented to me. I have been asking for solutions, but nobody has provided any that can't be dismissed on the same grounds.
> I mean, where are you going with "Our only options are to draw the wrong conclusions, or to stop studying it altogether"?
Where did I write anything close to that? I am not saying anything about drawing conclusions, I am literally asking: how would you design a test that measures the proposed problem? Why are you accusing me of advocating for "drawing the wrong conclusions"?
It's incredible how many people want to read my comments as advocating for something they are not. If you feel attacked because I'm asking how we could measure your idea, maybe I'm not the problem, but your idea is?
> It's not the only one I can think of, but no other options have been presented to me.
Well, then, with all due respect, if you already know of other options, why are you asking?
> I'm asking how we could measure your idea
Who cares? Even if you cannot "measure" (whatever that means) the alternatives, the fact still remains that people are drawing conclusions from incorrect and invalid data.
That's the point, really - the field of psychology is bereft of replicable studies.
Observing that the way a particular field performs research results in invalid conclusions doesn't put any obligation on the observer to provide alternatives.
It's enough to point out that a thing is wrong; there's no requirement to also provide the correct answer.
> Well, then, with all due respect, if you already know of other options, why are you asking?
If someone engages in a conversation with me and presents a thought, I would like them to present it fully. If there are obvious flaws or implications, I try to reflect them, both so I can be sure I correctly understood the other party, and to give them a chance to fill in those holes. I do not wish to just inject my own ideas everywhere, I want to understand people as they express themselves. Seems like a pretty normal way to talk to other humans to me.
> Who cares? Even if you cannot "measure" (whatever that means) the alternatives, the fact still remains that people are drawing conclusions from incorrect and invalid data.
And because you are declaring the data incorrect and invalid that means it is so? You will either have to share your research credentials which allow you to judge it as such, or you'll have to answer the obvious questions that come after such a statement (e.g. "how can you prove that?"). It's pretty normal in science that instead of people just blurting out thoughts which are taken as truths, we reflect on ideas and ask questions that help us get to a better understanding divided from our subjective point of view. If the best you can come up with is "well, it's obviously true, duh" then your thought isn't as good as you think.
> It's enough to point out that a thing is wrong
You are wrong. There, I said that you are wrong - does that make you wrong? If not, is there maybe some system by which we can determine whether you're right or wrong? Your response to this question is "no need, I am right".
It's not the only one I can think of, but no other options have been presented to me. I have been asking for solutions, but nobody has provided any that can't be dismissed on the same grounds.
> I mean, where are you going with "Our only options are to draw the wrong conclusions, or to stop studying it altogether"?
Where did I write anything close to that? I am not saying anything about drawing conclusions, I am literally asking: how would you design a test that measures the proposed problem? Why are you accusing me of advocating for "drawing the wrong conclusions"?
It's incredible how many people want to read my comments as advocating for something they are not. If you feel attacked because I'm asking how we could measure your idea, maybe I'm not the problem, but your idea is?