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I see. Computer Science is not an engineering degree and it is not about programming. That's what Software Engineering degrees are for.
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Most CS programs have software dev in their curricula; I don't think it's wild to expect a CS student to code FizzBuzz.

Yes, but overall it's still a science degree and not an engineering degree.

Many of the top schools don't have software/computer engineering degrees, rather people who want to be SWEs get CS degrees.

Yes, you're right. And that's a problem.

Software engineers graduates I've met are usually much worse at programming than computer science graduates.

I'm gonna strongly +1 on this.

Most of the "Software Engineering" curricula I've seen is catered towards "getting a job as a programmer", and is mostly focused on languages, frameworks and outdated processes.

As an engineer in another discipline, there's no engineering there.

I would rank like this: Computer Science > Self Taught > Software Engineering.


That too



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