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The 'manosphere' has already infiltrated the workplace. We're only just noticing (fastcompany.com)
10 points by zczc 2 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 11 comments
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Not sure if that's an effective way to get change: categorize and denigrate a large number of people by using offensive stereotypes in an attempt to get others to hate them.

Seriously, try reading the original article but do a reversal test on it. For example, imagine that a similar article was written in the 1960s by a business man concerned about the rise of feminism.

Are we really going to just keep repeating these cycles over and over? Do Humans learn nothing?


Feminism was a progressive movement - this is a regressive movement, meaning a move back to a time of greater misogyny, greater racism, and greater inequality. What is happening is that as white men slowly lose power and social currency in corporate America, they enter a mode of desperation, as they try to claw back as much currency as they can.

These low-effort comparisons to previous movements don't work, because this isn't the underdogs coming up or anything like that. This is THE status-quo trying to maintain it's status-quo status as they feel it slipping. It's sort of similar to how Trump was able to campaign on his anti-establishment message, while he himself IS the establishment.

White men are not the victims in all of this, and are certainly not the victims in corporate America. They run corporate America. This shift highlights a larger society-wide shift to conservatism and the far-right. While we had a small window of progressiveness in the 2010s which landed up many wins, such as the legalization of gay marriage, society is once again closing in as the top brass starts to feel their way of life is threatened.


I had a longer response, but deleted it, because ultimately it comes down to: I view all people to have inherantly equal value. The article implies something else.

Everyone does have inherently equal value, but our systems are structured in such a way to advantage particular people more. That's just the reality of it.

Yes ideally we would want to live in a world where the patriarchy doesn't exist, or where whiteness as a concept doesn't exist. But we are not in that world. So when we have movements such as these, we have to understand they're not coming from a place of unfairness or inequality. They're coming from a place of the establishment, the status-quo, the power, wishing to maintain their power.

You don't get any moral highground here, sorry. It's not as simple as those who believe in equal value versus those who don't. The world is complicated, such as naive and simple world view as the equalivent of "I don't see color" doesn't hold up to any amount of scrutiny or analysis. You may not wish to see it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


Yeah no you are wrong. They don’t all have inherently equal value. What a naive way to look at the world.

We had “are women ruining the workplace” articles in major news outlets last year.

You're "only just noticing", because you have downvoted, banned, and "cancelled" everyone who was warning you about it for a long time, under a pretence of them being "bigots" and "racists".

Why would the people warning about manosphere infiltration have been downvoted, banned and canceled? What was the content of their warnings?

we changed from one extreme cult to another cult.

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