I start with foxpro/visual foxpro. I still think was the MOST productive environment, bar none, for complete, end-to-end app development (for desktop).
I still miss it. I work with Delphi and later python (I like so much python) but still feel cheated by how much extra work is necessary.
I'm dreaming in a new language that mix python/foxpro and have sqlite integrate directly, so database and app development were as natural as with fox.
I still consider the Visual FoxPro REPL and debug window THE golden standard! NO even iPython is superior. It was so out-your-way and dam practical (you can use it directly from your own apps!, talking about easy solving on your running apps)
I still end up using VFP occasionally to port our older clients to our newer software.
Python/SQLite is almost as productive, you can do some sweet stuff with a few lines of code. Not as REPL, though. Throw in some pandas, IPython and some SQLAlchemy and your are rocking.
I still miss it. I work with Delphi and later python (I like so much python) but still feel cheated by how much extra work is necessary.
I'm dreaming in a new language that mix python/foxpro and have sqlite integrate directly, so database and app development were as natural as with fox.
I still consider the Visual FoxPro REPL and debug window THE golden standard! NO even iPython is superior. It was so out-your-way and dam practical (you can use it directly from your own apps!, talking about easy solving on your running apps)